Sedan with the most horsepower?
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> I think the Vantage was just a coupe, wasn’t it? The only A-M sedan I > remember was the Lagonda.
You can get the Aston Martin Shooting Brake (5dr Wagon). It’s a ‘remodelled’ Vantage with the 6.3L motor putting out over 500bhp. > I would submit either the Bentley Turbo R/Rolls Flying Spur or the > Mercedes S600 as the current production sedan with the most hp. > Unfortunately, RR doesn’t publish their hp.
If I remember correctly, the S600 makes 389bhp. Doesn’t the E39 M5 make more horsepower than that? — If you can’t park it, don’t drive it. http://web.idirect.com/~emlam
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>I think the Vantage was just a coupe, wasn’t it? The only A-M sedan I >remember was the Lagonda. >I would submit either the Bentley Turbo R/Rolls Flying Spur or the >Mercedes S600 as the current production sedan with the most hp. >Unfortunately, RR doesn’t publish their hp.
***** For production vehicles, the MBZ S600 exceeds the 400hp mark, whereas I think the RR and Bentley’s are still "only" in the 300s. It’s all academic, though. -CR
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For you Cadillac Northstar fans, I believe the median age of a Cadillac buyer is 65 yrs old (partly due to the disposable income to afford these beauties). Do you fit that demographic?
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: I think the Vantage was just a coupe, wasn’t it? The only A-M sedan I remember was the Lagonda. I would submit either the Bentley Turbo R/Rolls Flying Spur or the Mercedes S600 as the current production sedan with the most hp. Unfortunately, RR doesn’t publish their hp.
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Bentley Turbo R. No published numbers, but probably in the 400-500hp range. -Bob
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Mark E. Griffin Phone: (505) 893-3335
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: > ). It has 260 HP and 330 ft-lbs stock, : > which is easily uppable (is that a verb :^) on this engine. : > However, for STOCK HP the best I know of in a halfway affordable : > car is the 300 HP Northstars. : > : > : I totally forgot about those 
If you’re willing to dole out about 35-50k, : you can get one of the fastest sedans (luxury too) The Seville STS. : Those things are NICE : ______ Michael Scanlan | Check out my Web Page! : / Weymouth, Massachusetts, Ma. | http://www.tiac.net/users/timebomb : / TIAC – The Internet Access Co. | If you’re looking for something a bit more affordable, how about a ‘97 Grand Prix sedan? You can get ‘em with a supercharged 3.8l that put’s out 240 hp (not sure about torque though). That’s not too bad, considering the Grand Prix is a good deal lighter than the Impalla SS and the Cadillac’s. Rick H.
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>> I am curious to know what cars out today have the most horsepower > for a 4-door. There are many high horsepowered 2-doors but I am > interested in a Sedan. Does anyone have some ideas? >Well, my ‘91 Dodge Spirit R/T makes 224hp with at 2.2l four cylinder. I >bet the Chevy Impala SS must make 270-280hp with its 350ci V8. The >Cadillac Northstar V8s are also up there around 280hp. The big Lexus and >Infinity V8 sedans are up around 300hp, now. And the BMW, Mercedes, >and Jag V12s… >Plus, don’t forget the supercharged 3800 V6 in the Pontiac Bonneville >(and a couple of other GM cars). They certainly have to be at least in >the 240hp range.
The BMW M5 had 310hp. Doesn’t the MB S600 have an obsence amount of hp? >If two people claim to be Jesus, one of them must be wrong. >’91 Dodge Spirit R/T – you don’t notice it until it’s gone
Eric Bin
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Hello, > I am curious to know what cars out today have the most horsepower > for a 4-door. There are many high horsepowered 2-doors but I am > interested in a Sedan. Does anyone have some ideas?
>Well, my ‘91 Dodge Spirit R/T makes 224hp with at 2.2l four cylinder. I >bet the Chevy Impala SS must make 270-280hp with its 350ci V8. The >Cadillac Northstar V8s are also up there around 280hp. The big Lexus and >Infinity V8 sedans are up around 300hp, now. And the BMW, Mercedes, >and Jag V12s…
Not so fast. Chevrolet Caprice and Impala SS (and their snooty cousins, Buick Roadmaster and Cadillac Fleetwood) are rated at 260 horsepowers. Lexus LS400 is not-so-breathtaking 245 whilst Infiniti Q45 is 278. Aston Martin offers 330- and 550-horsepower upgrade kit for Lagonda and Shooting Brake owners if their cheques clear… Audi is so selfish by not sending the 315-horsepower 80 Avant RS2 (5,4-second dash to 60mph, 160mph), S6 4,2 and its estate, S6 Avant 4,2 and S8 with revised 4,2-litre V8 at 330 horsepowers. Come on, Audi, send us these cars! Bentley Turbo R is fitted with 380-horsepower motor (according to DIN, German institute of standards as Rolls-Royce is traditionally silent on performance figure). BMWs dearly departed M5 and soon to be dearly departed M5 Touring are the last six-cylinder Motorsport motor at 340 horsepower (5,9-second sprint to 60, 155mph-thanks to speed governor). Its M3 Evolution saloon (yes, the Germans can order two- or four-door M3 along with M3 Cabrio) is daemonic with 320-horsepower 3,2-litre six-cylinder motor. 750il has 326. BMW is too thrifty in homologisating the geninue M3 for American market. Pity about insolvency of Bugatti and its stillborn EB112 neo-Thirties saloon. Otherwise it could become a king of mega-power saloon at 550 horsepower. Cadillac at last graces the world with its finest 300-horsepower Northstar V8 motor in Seville STS and Eldorado ETC after suffering years of dismal V8 motors since the astoundingly 500cid V8 from late 1960s and early 1970s. Bring back mega-cubers! Close enough: Chevrolet Suburban C/K2500 is king of SUV with 290-horsepower 7400 Vortex V8 motor. The engine bay is spacious for a Falconer Industries custom-built V12 motors based on Chevrolet short block… Jaguar XJR and XJ12 cars are fitted with 320-horsepower supercharged six-cylinder motor and very ancient 306-horsepower V12 respectively. Italians are elated for Maseratis small saloon fitted with TWO-LITRE 306-horsepower V6. Very frighteningly fast and very frightening to drive! Thankfully, Maserati snubbed its nose at American market because they are so unreliable! Mercedes-Benz celebrated 500E/E500 has five-litre 325-horsepower V8. Its successor, E50 AMG, is fitted with AMG-modified 347-horsepower V8. The Americans will not receive the latter until Mercedes-Benz introduces the new generation of V6 and V8 motors. It is possible for E55 AMG with 400-horsepower 5,5-litre V8 to be homologisated for American market in 1997. Ah, dont forget the monstrous 394-horsepower V12 in S600 whilst its cheaper cousin, S500, is fitted with 326-horspower V8. Toyota does not feel the Americans deserve this saloon: 330-horsepower Lexus GS300. It is restricted to Japanese market only. You can have all-wheel-drive option if you care… The privilged Communist party members at Politburo are driven about Moscow in their mammoth black Zil 41047 limousine with 7,7-litre 315-horsepower V8. I am certain of American saloons from the 1960s and early 1970s with 300- and 400- horsepower carburettured push-rodded big-block V8 motors. Later, Oliver
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>I am curious to know what cars out today have the most horsepower for a >4-door. There are many high horsepowered 2-doors but I am interested in a >Sedan. Does anyone have some ideas?
Those that come to mind are: MB600 – about 400bhp or so Opel Lotus Omega – 377bhp BMW M5 – 340bhp -Henri — ##### Architecture Major #### Nissan Skyline GT-R ‘Janspeed Special’ #### Net Admin ##### ’71 LS-6 454 Corvette Coupe ### Sports Car Enthusiast ###### Fiat Uno Turbo – ‘AARGH! Front wheel drive!’
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>Gary Kercheck said… >I don’t know how much HP it has, but the six speed BMW 540i >is among the fastest four door sedans on the planet. It’s the >only 4 door I’ve seen breaking the six second barrier for the >0-60mph run in recent memory. >Apparently, C&D got the giant Mercedes-Benz S-600 to do a 0-60 >run in 5.7 seconds.
C&D’s acceleration numbers are more than a little optimistic compared to those of any other source. Jonathan Forbes, LZX co-author | "I would like to electrocute everyone who Computer Engineering, 4B | uses the word ‘fair’ in connection with University of Waterloo | income tax policies." – William F. Buckley
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Gary Kercheck said… >I don’t know how much HP it has, but the six speed BMW 540i >is among the fastest four door sedans on the planet. It’s the >only 4 door I’ve seen breaking the six second barrier for the >0-60mph run in recent memory.
Apparently, C&D got the giant Mercedes-Benz S-600 to do a 0-60 run in 5.7 seconds.
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: I have to put in a vote for my car, a 1996 Chevy Impala SS. It : is the same speed or faster as the above cars, and slightly : cheaper as well (~$25K). It has 260 HP and 330 ft-lbs stock, YES!! Relatively affordable, and _fast_. Big-American- Sedan guise makes it a great sleeper. Plus, it’s very upgradeable: check out the 6-speed, Vortech supercharged version in an old Autoweek or Turbo mag. Too bad this is the last year of production. =/ — -Jayson || Jayson Entao ||/// / / / / / / / || ||/// / / / / / / / Volvo 855T: http://www.engr.ucdavis.edu/~jmentao/VOLVO/850.html (soon) ^ | A 325hp 850 sedan is not a bad idea either, but wait for the 4WD version =)
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I am curious to know what cars out today have the most horsepower for a >4-door. There are many high horsepowered 2-doors but I am interested in a >Sedan. Does anyone have some ideas? >Mark E. Griffin >Phone: (505) 893-3335 > I don’t know how much HP it has, but the six speed BMW 540i > is among the fastest four door sedans on the planet. It’s the > only 4 door I’ve seen breaking the six second barrier for the > 0-60mph run in recent memory.
However, the Caddie Seville STS comes close. With 4 doors and a 300 hp V8, it does 0-60 in 6.2, if my memory is correct.. ______ Michael Scanlan | Check out my Web Page! / Weymouth, Massachusetts, Ma. | http://www.tiac.net/users/timebomb / TIAC – The Internet Access Co. |
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If your just interested in horespower try the Impalla SS 502. Car & Driver did an article on this beast, I don’t the issue but anyhow, this car was a street illegal prototype that never saw production. The engine was a marine block out of a speed boat, 502cid. The horespower was rated at something like 450, and nearly as much torque. I guess Callaway, Stillen, or Dinan performance engeneering guys could throw one together for you. But if you want performance, I would suggest the MB C-36, the one that AMG does up.
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>I am curious to know what cars out today have the most horsepower for a >4-door. There are many high horsepowered 2-doors but I am interested in a >Sedan. Does anyone have some ideas? >Mark E. Griffin >Phone: (505) 893-3335
I don’t know how much HP it has, but the six speed BMW 540i is among the fastest four door sedans on the planet. It’s the only 4 door I’ve seen breaking the six second barrier for the 0-60mph run in recent memory. Gary Kercheck
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Mark E. Griffin said… >I am curious to know what cars out today have the most horsepower for a >4-door. There are many high horsepowered 2-doors but I am interested in a >Sedan. Does anyone have some ideas?
Among U.S. market cars, the M-B S-600 sedan is rated at 389 hp, and the Bentley Turbo R is rated at 385 hp. Of course, these two cars are so heavy that their acceleration is comparable to some less powerful, but much lighter, 4-door sedans (e.g. the M-B C36).
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> ). It has 260 HP and 330 ft-lbs stock, > which is easily uppable (is that a verb :^) on this engine. > However, for STOCK HP the best I know of in a halfway affordable > car is the 300 HP Northstars.
I totally forgot about those If you’re willing to dole out about 35-50k, you can get one of the fastest sedans (luxury too) The Seville STS. Those things are NICE ______ Michael Scanlan | Check out my Web Page! / Weymouth, Massachusetts, Ma. | http://www.tiac.net/users/timebomb / TIAC – The Internet Access Co. |
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> You do realize that the "horsepower" of the engine is not the most important > factor in the speed. Low-end touque is the biggest. As far as the fastest
As far as top speed, max. horsepower IS the most important factor (other than gearing and aerodynamics, etc.). Low-end torque/power means good off-the-line acceleration. > 4-dr sedan I have ridden in, it would be a tie between a 1996 Maxima SE, and > a 1996 Pontiac Bonneville SSEi.
Those are both very fast sedans. There’s also the Oldsmobile LSS which is about as fast as the Bonneville SSEi.
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writes: |> |> > I am curious to know what cars out today have the most horsepower for a |> > 4-door. There are many high horsepowered 2-doors but I am interested in a |> > Sedan. Does anyone have some ideas? |> |> You do realize that the "horsepower" of the engine is not the most important |> |> factor in the speed. Low-end touque is the biggest. You’re a bit confused about this, but I’ll let someone else address it. | As far as the fastest |> 4-dr sedan I have ridden in, it would be a tie between a 1996 Maxima SE, and |> a 1996 Pontiac Bonneville SSEi. |> |> Both in the Upper 20k ranges though. Both reasonably quick sedans – the Bonneville is 240HP, the Maxima is rated at 190, but they have to be sandbagging, based on how fast it is. There are plenty of high horsepower sedans to be had. Here’s sampling, from memory: Lexus LS400 260HP Infiniti Q45 278HP Cadillac Seville STS 300HP (old) Ford Taurus SHO 220HP <– My favorite, but I’m biased and the killer; Mercedes Benz S600 with, I believe, 395HP from its 6.0 liter V-12. — Phone: (214) 684-1122 | Richardson, Texas ESN: 444 Fax: -3713 |
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>> I am curious to know what cars out today have the most horsepower for a > 4-door. There are many high horsepowered 2-doors but I am interested in a > Sedan. Does anyone have some ideas? >You do realize that the "horsepower" of the engine is not the most important >factor in the speed. Low-end touque is the biggest. As far as the fastest >4-dr sedan I have ridden in, it would be a tie between a 1996 Maxima SE, and >a 1996 Pontiac Bonneville SSEi.
I have to put in a vote for my car, a 1996 Chevy Impala SS. It is the same speed or faster as the above cars, and slightly cheaper as well (~$25K). It has 260 HP and 330 ft-lbs stock, which is easily uppable (is that a verb :^) on this engine. However, for STOCK HP the best I know of in a halfway affordable car is the 300 HP Northstars. (blank lines inserted for this bad newsreader :^). — Ed Runnion, Flash Memory Reliability Engineer Texas Instruments, Houston TX USA Web Homepage : http://www.clemson.edu/~erunnio/ed.html
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I am curious to know what cars out today have the most horsepower for a 4-door. There are many high horsepowered 2-doors but I am interested in a Sedan. Does anyone have some ideas? Mark E. Griffin Phone: (505) 893-3335
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> I am curious to know what cars out today have the most horsepower for a > 4-door. There are many high horsepowered 2-doors but I am interested in a > Sedan. Does anyone have some ideas?
You do realize that the "horsepower" of the engine is not the most important factor in the speed. Low-end touque is the biggest. As far as the fastest 4-dr sedan I have ridden in, it would be a tie between a 1996 Maxima SE, and a 1996 Pontiac Bonneville SSEi. Both in the Upper 20k ranges though. ______ Michael Scanlan | Check out my Web Page! / Weymouth, Massachusetts, Ma. | http://www.tiac.net/users/timebomb / TIAC – The Internet Access Co. |
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> I am curious to know what cars out today have the most horsepower > for a 4-door. There are many high horsepowered 2-doors but I am > interested in a Sedan. Does anyone have some ideas?
Well, my ‘91 Dodge Spirit R/T makes 224hp with at 2.2l four cylinder. I bet the Chevy Impala SS must make 270-280hp with its 350ci V8. The Cadillac Northstar V8s are also up there around 280hp. The big Lexus and Infinity V8 sedans are up around 300hp, now. And the BMW, Mercedes, and Jag V12s… Plus, don’t forget the supercharged 3800 V6 in the Pontiac Bonneville (and a couple of other GM cars). They certainly have to be at least in the 240hp range. If two people claim to be Jesus, one of them must be wrong. ‘91 Dodge Spirit R/T – you don’t notice it until it’s gone
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