Does a bear sh*t in the woods? I might be. (question)

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Yes you need to dig a hole.  Most say 2′ deep.  It’s rare to get down that far.  Choose your distance based on how far you would like mounds from your camp.  Take a small hike. >I’m going canoeing/camping in a few weeks and was needing to know >about bathroom breaks. How far from camp should I go, and do I need to >dig a hole? Any other tips/tricks? >thanks, >-Steve >Modem (mO-dem) v. "What we did to them hay fields"

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>100 feet from camp, 100 feet from any water source, 6" hole, pack out >the paper, watch out for poison ivy!

Watch out for bears watching you from a tree too.  It happened to me backpacking in Yosemite. — http://www.ftel.net/~ellis/photo

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>But…where do you wear it to protect all those private parts?      Or does it >just have a far reach?? ; )

A wrist band mosquito repellent works like a dog/cat flea collar.   The chemical is absorbed into your skin and ( theoretically ) protects your entire body.

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>But…where do you wear it to protect all those private parts?      Or does it >just have a far reach?? ; )

In bad bugs, two or three bands hung anywhere on your body create a vapor barrier that extends about three feet around an individual.  The active ingreedient (deet) is encapsulated in the outer area of the plastic band. Nothing but plastic touches your body.  The deet evaporates at a controlled rate to last 120 hours. Lotions and sprays evaporate at an uncontrolled rate, hence the short protection time and need to re-apply often.  There is nothing to wash off or sweat off. They are available at various retail outlets around the country, but if you cannot find them, check my web site: http://www.mynox.com.4dot.htm take the Chase A Way link.  I guarantee satisfaction. Fred

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>the woods? I might be. (question) >A wrist band mosquito repellent works like a dog/cat flea collar.   The >chemical is absorbed into your skin and ( theoretically ) protects your >entire >body.

No,No,No!  dog/cat flea collars are meant to kill things.  The wristbands just keep the bugs away from you.  The reason deet  works is that it confuses the insects heat and carbon dioxide sensors.  The reason the wristbands work just as well as (or better) and work longer than other deet products is the vapor barrier is more uniform.  Lotions. etc create about a 3 inch barrier whereas the bands create about a three foot barrier. Nothing is absorbed by your skin and none of your valuable possesions are melted,etc. Try ‘em, you might like ‘em.  No risk, satisfaction guaranteed.  I use them and I sell them.  If you can’t find them at your local outlet, check with me. Fred

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>No,No,No!  dog/cat flea collars are meant to kill things.  The wristbands >just >keep the bugs away from you

I know they aren’t meant to kill things but I watched a show ( like 20/20 or something similar ). It was saying that the wristbands work by absorbtion into the skin.  The whole segment was how some people felt it was dangerous to absorb chemicals into the body but the manufacture of the wristbands say its perfectly harmless to you.  The media isn’t always right so I could have been misinformed.  If this information was incorrect sorry.  Also has anyone ever used those battery powered plastic ladybugs that emit the sound of dragonfly wings?  I bought one about a year ago at a baby store but haven’t tried it. 1972 24ft. Continental Travel Trailer 1979 23.5ft. Shasta Travel Trailer 1985 Chevrolet S-10 1986 Toyota 4runner 1986 GMC Suburban 1993 Honda Civic

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>Best trick: eat fast food before camping. When that immediate sudden >urge (that follows each Big mac) creeps up, run to the bathroom and >off-load everything. Then, thanks to the miracles of modern fast-food, >you will be empty and constipated for a week. No need to worry about >potty in the woods…..

I make certain i’m somewhat ‘bound up’ before i go…to the woods, that is.  Cheese, Pepto Bismol, or Kayopectate (sp) does it fine!

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> Also has anyone ever > used those battery powered plastic ladybugs that emit the sound of dragonfly > wings?  I bought one about a year ago at a baby store but haven’t tried it.

Here in the UK there has just been a succesfull prosecution of a comapny selling these. The Trading standards office proved that there were no significant differnce in the number of bites you got when using one to whenyou wren’t Marc

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It’s perfectly acceptable to say shit and not have to use any euphemisms.  There is no censorship here. — *  Do NOT modify my e-mail address for correspondence. *  It is valid as stated. Now, my gripe: My fellow Americans, that silly firm-handshake fad in America has gone too far.  A gentle polite and sincere handshake will do.  There’s no need to squeeze someone’s hand as though you were squeezing an orange for juice.  It hurts, fellas.

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> It’s perfectly acceptable to say shit and not have to use any > euphemisms.  There is no censorship here.

If there is no censorship here, why are you objecting to his use of the word sh*t?  He should be free to say anything he wants to. — Jim Esler

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It is a common misconseption that they do  But, under new Forest Service rules they are required to have at least a porta pot  handy   and must train there cubs to use it – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I’m going canoeing/camping in a few weeks and was needing to know > about bathroom breaks. How far from camp should I go, and do I need to > dig a hole? Any other tips/tricks? > thanks, > -Steve > Modem (mO-dem) v. "What we did to them hay fields"

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There is a funny, informative book by Kathleen Meyer called, "How to Shit in the Woods : An Environmentally Sound Approach to a Lost Art."  If you don’t know how to do it, and no one will teach you, get this book! The Amazon URL for it: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0898156270/qid=901553672/sr=1-… 590082-3083004 Lindsay – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’m going canoeing/camping in a few weeks and was needing to know > about bathroom breaks. How far from camp should I go, and do I need to > dig a hole? Any other tips/tricks? > thanks, > -Steve > Modem (mO-dem) v. "What we did to them hay fields"

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> I’m going canoeing/camping in a few weeks and was needing to know > about bathroom breaks. How far from camp should I go, and do I need to > dig a hole? Any other tips/tricks?

Best trick: eat fast food before camping. When that immediate sudden urge (that follows each Big mac) creeps up, run to the bathroom and off-load everything. Then, thanks to the miracles of modern fast-food, you will be empty and constipated for a week. No need to worry about potty in the woods…..

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I’m writing it down now…. But…where do you wear it to protect all those private parts?  Or does it just have a far reach?? ; ) >And watch for nosy mosquitos…it’s the worst place to get stung… > Not a problem if you use the Chase A Way insect repelling wristband.  The vapor > barrier created protects all those private parts.  Most people don’t like to > apply deet there. > Fred

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And watch for nosy mosquitos…it’s the worst place to get stung… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> 100 feet from camp, 100 feet from any water source, 6" hole, pack out > the paper, watch out for poison ivy! > I’m going canoeing/camping in a few weeks and was needing to know > about bathroom breaks. How far from camp should I go, and do I need to > dig a hole? Any other tips/tricks? > thanks, > -Steve > Modem (mO-dem) v. "What we did to them hay fields"

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>And watch for nosy mosquitos…it’s the worst place to get stung…

Not a problem if you use the Chase A Way insect repelling wristband.  The vapor barrier created protects all those private parts.  Most people don’t like to apply deet there. Fred

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I don’t think it is too important how far from YOUR camp go but at least 100 feet from someone else’s camp would be nice.  Dig a shallow latrine just deep enough to cover with about 2 inches of topsoil.  Any deeper than six inches and it will take years for it to decompose. p.s. Polar and Teddy Bears do not. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >I’m going canoeing/camping in a few weeks and was needing to know >about bathroom breaks. How far from camp should I go, and do I need to >dig a hole? Any other tips/tricks?

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I’m going canoeing/camping in a few weeks and was needing to know about bathroom breaks. How far from camp should I go, and do I need to dig a hole? Any other tips/tricks? thanks, -Steve Modem (mO-dem) v. "What we did to them hay fields"

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100 feet from camp, 100 feet from any water source, 6" hole, pack out the paper, watch out for poison ivy! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I’m going canoeing/camping in a few weeks and was needing to know > about bathroom breaks. How far from camp should I go, and do I need to > dig a hole? Any other tips/tricks? > thanks, > -Steve > Modem (mO-dem) v. "What we did to them hay fields"

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>I’m going canoeing/camping in a few weeks and was needing to know >about bathroom breaks. How far from camp should I go, and do I need to >dig a hole? Any other tips/tricks?

You can get antibacterial prewrapped moistened wipes which are great in lieu of handwashing when back packing.    And I will reiterate about *Packing out TP* Yes it’s gross, but that’s what zip locks are for.  TP has a nasty way of turning  into little flowers that gather around rocks, tree trunks, etc. 100 feet away from camp in good, but more is better.  Pick a place off the beater track, away from a trail or possible route.   Find a view if possible <G>.  You will be gone after a few days, but you poop will be there for a few years while it decomposes. Penny

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