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Ford Motor company sucks.  I own a 1988 Ford Ranger.  It is a six cylinder and I have gone through about 7 starters in the last 5 months.   Today was trhe last straw.  I went to the gas station to buy some gas, which by the way is expensive as hell.  Anyway I went to start my truck and I heard a grinding noise.  I said ok tried it again, the same thing.   Now I got underneath my truck and removed the son of a b–ch.  Now I have a starter in my hand and grease all over my clothes and body.  Luckily a Pep Boys was near by.  I went to the door and realized it was closed.  I was out of luck.  I calleda tow truck.  The first time the sarter went bad, the bolt loops broke off.  The second time, the starter froze.  The third time the bolt loops broke off again.  Then the forth time the cable broke so I wenty to remove the starter to put a new cable on it and it was frozen when I went to put it back on.  Earlier thisd week, one of the bolts was missing, so I put a new one in and siliconed it in.  Then today this happened.  What should I do?  By a new starter from Ford or keep returning them to Pep Boys?  TIA Albert Daniels

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DANIELS) writes: >this happened.  What should I do?  By a new starter from Ford or keep >returning them to Pep Boys?  TIA

Buy one from Ford and spend the money to have somebody ( the dealer ) who knows what they are doing put it on.   Going through that many starters in that amount of time tells me that either Pep Boys sells junk for parts ( which I have heard before ) or the starter was installed incorrectly and failed because of that.  Either way having a dealer put on a good quality starter would at least give you a warranty and they would have to replace it if went bad again that quick.  I’m not a fan of dealers, but in a case like this when you have had to repair the same part more than once in a short period of time, it would be worth having a dealer ( with quality service personnel, if you can find one near you ) take a look at it. Brent Bolte

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Ford Motor company sucks.  I own a 1988 Ford Ranger.  It is a six > cylinder and I have gone through about 7 starters in the last 5 months. > Today was trhe last straw.  I went to the gas station to buy some gas, > which by the way is expensive as hell.  Anyway I went to start my truck > and I heard a grinding noise.  I said ok tried it again, the same thing. > Now I got underneath my truck and removed the son of a b–ch.  Now I have > a starter in my hand and grease all over my clothes and body.  Luckily a > Pep Boys was near by.  I went to the door and realized it was closed.  I > was out of luck.  I calleda tow truck.  The first time the sarter went > bad, the bolt loops broke off.  The second time, the starter froze.  The > third time the bolt loops broke off again.  Then the forth time the cable > broke so I wenty to remove the starter to put a new cable on it and it > was frozen when I went to put it back on.  Earlier thisd week, one of the > bolts was missing, so I put a new one in and siliconed it in.  Then today > this happened.  What should I do?  By a new starter from Ford or keep > returning them to Pep Boys?  TIA > Albert Daniels >You might stop buying cheap starters! ;-)

Really, your problems are hardly universal (meaning they are not happening to everyone, or even a significant number of others). This means that there may well be a reason for them besides the name FORD on the truck. Have you checked the ring gear on the flywheel? Since the bolt loops have been broken off, were they welded back on straight? The fact that a bolt turned up missing is a very good indication it wasn’t installed properly. Who’s been doing your work for you? Maybe a new mechanic is called for. —         ASCIi User Group – http://www.starlink.com:80/~ascii                 User groups: More info than you can shake a CD at!                              Try one near you!

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Ford Motor company sucks.  I own a 1988 Ford Ranger.  It is a six >cylinder and I have gone through about 7 starters in the last 5 months.   >Today was trhe last straw.  I went to the gas station to buy some gas, >which by the way is expensive as hell.  Anyway I went to start my truck >and I heard a grinding noise.  I said ok tried it again, the same thing.   >Now I got underneath my truck and removed the son of a b–ch.  Now I have >a starter in my hand and grease all over my clothes and body.  Luckily a >Pep Boys was near by.  I went to the door and realized it was closed.  I >was out of luck.  I calleda tow truck.  The first time the sarter went >bad, the bolt loops broke off.  The second time, the starter froze.  The >third time the bolt loops broke off again.  Then the forth time the cable >broke so I wenty to remove the starter to put a new cable on it and it >was frozen when I went to put it back on.  Earlier thisd week, one of the >bolts was missing, so I put a new one in and siliconed it in.  Then today >this happened.  What should I do?  By a new starter from Ford or keep >returning them to Pep Boys?  TIA >Albert Daniels

Gee, going thru that many starters from Pep Boys and FORD sucks? Maybe if you bought it from Ford to begin with you wouldn’t have these problems. Mike

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>>Ford Motor company sucks. …..  Then the forth time the cable >broke so I wenty to remove the starter to put a new cable on it and it >was frozen when I went to put it back on.  Earlier thisd week, one of the >bolts was missing, so I put a new one in and siliconed it in.  Then today >this happened.  What should I do?  By a new starter from Ford or keep >returning them to Pep Boys?  TIA >Albert Daniels >Gee, going thru that many starters from Pep Boys and FORD sucks? >Maybe if you bought it from Ford to begin with you wouldn’t have these >problems.

I have to agree.  You’re probably getting rebuilt starters, which often aren’t as good as Ford’s.  Sounds like pep boys sucks harder than Ford, since my starter works fine.   George M. Wolfe, Esq., Pres.  Wolfe Legal Services WWW:              http://www.infinet.com/~wolfelaw Street: 4443 North High Street, Columbus, OH 43214

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>Gee, going thru that many starters from Pep Boys and FORD sucks? >Maybe if you bought it from Ford to begin with you wouldn’t have these >problems.

Well, that can work both ways… (*Drift warning!*) A number of years ago, the oil pump went out on my 1977 Chrysler slant-6.  So, I went to the local Dodge dealer, and bought a replacement for about $70.  I installed it properly, _including_ greasing the rotor to make sure the new pump would prime.  When I started the engine, the pump did prime; the oil pressure came right up to normal — for about 5 seconds.  Then the pump seized.  The drive gear ate itself, and I had to fish fragments out of the oil pan.  (One nice thing about the slant-6, the oil pump was outside of the pan, so you could change it without too much work.  But I had to drop the pan anyway to clean out the chunks from the first replacement pump.) Anyway, the dealer refused to refund or replace the pump (long story) and I ended up buying a replacement at Pep Boys for $25; it worked just fine and lasted another 60,000 miles until I got rid of the van. Maybe it’s still going, who knows? —    Warning!  This post may contain a "stealth" .sig virus!

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Gee, going thru that many starters from Pep Boys and FORD sucks? >Maybe if you bought it from Ford to begin with you wouldn’t have these >problems. >Well, that can work both ways… >(*Drift warning!*) >A number of years ago, the oil pump went out on my 1977 Chrysler >slant-6.  So, I went to the local Dodge dealer, and bought a >replacement for about $70.  I installed it properly, _including_ >greasing the rotor to make sure the new pump would prime.  When I >started the engine, the pump did prime; the oil pressure came right up >to normal — for about 5 seconds.  Then the pump seized.  The drive >gear ate itself, and I had to fish fragments out of the oil pan.  (One >nice thing about the slant-6, the oil pump was outside of the pan, so >you could change it without too much work.  But I had to drop the pan >anyway to clean out the chunks from the first replacement pump.) >Anyway, the dealer refused to refund or replace the pump (long story) >and I ended up buying a replacement at Pep Boys for $25; it worked >just fine and lasted another 60,000 miles until I got rid of the van. >Maybe it’s still going, who knows? >– >   Warning!  This post may contain a "stealth" .sig virus!

OK OK It looks like the correct name for this thread is "Pep Boys sucks sometimes and Chrysler sucks all the time."

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Sorry, this isn’t related….  but…. > Both take short cuts-mainly on interiors and having the public test > the product, then making recalls.

Reminds me of WinFroze…   I mean WinDoze…

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And what is your current score with non-domestic’s? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Every ford i have ever owned has been a big piece of shit, anyone > agree??

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DROF = Driver Returns On Foot

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Two simple definitions of  the word FORD: > FORD = Fix Or Repair Daily > FORD = Found On Road Dead > — > * HAPPY HOLIDAYS * > Gale L. > Wauconda, ILL >  97 Chevy Blazer LT 4X4

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No arguments, fufu???

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> Every ford i have ever owned has been a big piece of shit, anyone > agree??

The company provided me with a brand new, 1983 Dodge 350 van (318cid, auto).  I treated it as though it were my OWN.  (I HATE to change trucks).  It was a piece o dey crap. The company provided me with a brand new, 1991 E250 Ford van (300cid I6, auto).  It is nearly a piece o dey crap. I want a Chevrolet for my next company vehicle.  That way, I can be pissed-off at ALL THREE major brands.                     <sigh> JR — 2002 Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD 8.1L V8 4WD 2002 Toyota Corolla

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*cringes* Cheers, Jay

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> F*cked Over Recycled Dodge….   (sorry Jay) > Two simple definitions of  the word FORD: > FORD = Fix Or Repair Daily > FORD = Found On Road Dead

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> Every ford i have ever owned has been a big piece of shit, anyone > agree??

Personally I’ve never owned a ford for more than 6 months without it making my teeth ache. My neighbor on the other hand has had pretty good luck with his ‘67 and ‘75 3/4 ton fords.

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You missed one F%$#ed Over Rusty Dodge…

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Two simple definitions of  the word FORD: > FORD = Fix Or Repair Daily > FORD = Found On Road Dead > — > * HAPPY HOLIDAYS * > Gale L. > Wauconda, ILL >  97 Chevy Blazer LT 4X4

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> Every ford i have ever owned has been a big piece of shit, anyone > agree??

Actually, just being a causual observer (I own a 93 Isuzu truck–GM plant built, btw), GM isn’t all that, either. My thought is that Ford makes the better all-around v8 and GM easily makes the better v6. Think about it:  Ford’s ironed out most of the kinks in the modulars (Jaguar designed, btw), GM’s LS1-based engines rattle, suck oil, and who knows what…Ford’s excuse for a full-size truck v6 is an oversized Mustang engine!  Oh yeah, there’s the Taurus/Mustang/T-bird 3.8L, too. Both take short cuts-mainly on interiors and having the public test the product, then making recalls. I know, consumers want more for less, but think how much worse a $30K base model Tundra would look compared to a similarly refined "domestic" rig? Who’s kidding who?  All this new technology under the hood costs big money, so you’re not getting a freebie. Thank goodness Jacques N. is gone.  That’s what trying to satisying the bean counters does for your career.  How about something similar at GM?  How about some higher-ups that like cars for once!?!!?! Anyway, the Dodge brothers left Ford to start…tah-dah!…Dodge.  So, Fucked Over Rebuilt Dodge has merits.

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Hey man, don’t knock the Vega.. If it weren’t for that car, we wouldn’t have the Powder Puff class for demolition derbys!!!! *giggles as dodge omni comes to mind* Cheers, Jay

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’ll expand on this: > All vehicles are pure shit.  They’re cheaply built machines – they WILL > fail, and with a few exceptions – they treat the owner equally badly as the > drivers treat them…  Of course there are a few straight flat out "garbage" > cars (Vega comes to mind), or overall "good" cars with a few individual > troublesome parts.  But of course there will be people that will argue > against this as they had perfect performance from those cars with > statistically horrible longevity. > Buy the car that makes you happy, and unless you enjoy fixing your > transportation get a long term warranty and/or trade in your cars > regularly… > JS

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I’ll expand on this: All vehicles are pure shit.  They’re cheaply built machines – they WILL fail, and with a few exceptions – they treat the owner equally badly as the drivers treat them…  Of course there are a few straight flat out "garbage" cars (Vega comes to mind), or overall "good" cars with a few individual troublesome parts.  But of course there will be people that will argue against this as they had perfect performance from those cars with statistically horrible longevity. Buy the car that makes you happy, and unless you enjoy fixing your transportation get a long term warranty and/or trade in your cars regularly… JS – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Every ford i have ever owned has been a big piece of shit, anyone > agree??

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F*cked Over Recycled Dodge….   (sorry Jay) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Two simple definitions of  the word FORD: > FORD = Fix Or Repair Daily > FORD = Found On Road Dead

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Dodge is worse because they wont honor their warranty 97 Dakota the thing was a owners nightmare traded it off for a 2001 Silverado :-) I don’t know how to act with it not broke all the time I had a 84 Ford van ( I bought it new. It was a nightmare running neck and neck with the dodge The two best cars I have ever owned were a 64 chevy impala and a 76 Impala the 76 rusted away from under me 185k 15 years Total repairs Crank shaft front seal 2 starter brushes 3 radiator replace     normal tires and brakes exhaust repairs The car ran and rode as good as I day I bought it. Un fortunately the Indiana road salt ate the radiator and body up. I got rid of it when the door handles started separating away from the door  and the vinyl on metal roof started leaking due to rust under the vinyl > Every ford i have ever owned has been a big piece of shit, anyone > agree??

– Highlander

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I am all for Chevrolet, but was this string really called for? It has no worthy content and impales a subject that will obviously thrive in its environment. Cheers Jay

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Two simple definitions of  the word FORD: > FORD = Fix Or Repair Daily > FORD = Found On Road Dead > — > * HAPPY HOLIDAYS * > Gale L. > Wauconda, ILL >  97 Chevy Blazer LT 4X4

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That was my ONE-TIME experience. Yes. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Every ford i have ever owned has been a big piece of shit, anyone >agree??

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Ford is one of the automotive worlds’ best bad examples! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Every ford i have ever owned has been a big piece of shit, anyone > agree??

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Two simple definitions of  the word FORD: FORD = Fix Or Repair Daily FORD = Found On Road Dead — * HAPPY HOLIDAYS * Gale L. Wauconda, ILL  97 Chevy Blazer LT 4X4

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Every ford i have ever owned has been a big piece of shit, anyone agree??

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