What does CK stand for?
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>>Well, as for the 1/2ton-3/4ton-1ton, you’d be surprised at how many people >*don’t* know, even those who sell them. For Chrissake, LOTS of people lurk >::::::::::::::::;snip >I resemble that remark, go get ‘em Aaron! >By the way, you are right. Sounds like Mr. GM Salesman needs to go to a seminar >or something. >Let’s not forget the brilliant idea of naming them V and R models for the 1987 >production year.
I’m not so sure that didn’t make more since than calling 2 different body styles the same thing. The parts guys are just loving this.
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Nice history. The original poster just purchased a new truck though. Thus the comparison to a truck from 1977 has no bearing. My responses were geared toward that vehicle. BTW, I really don’t think I need to go to a seminar as I’ve not made an inaccurate post. Ken.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->A fancy way of saying the same thing I did. Like I said…they are all C/K >trucks..that’s the model name. If you get into the actual model code then >the C’s and K’s are relevant. For example a CC15703 is a 2WD reg cab short >bed, a CK15703 is a 4WD reg cab short bed…however, they are both C/K >trucks. Just like the 99’s are Silverado trucks. >Ken <~~this really isn’t that confusing, but still nobody’s figured out what >C/K stands for. > Well, years ago, the C models had a C emblem on them, and the K models had a K > emblem. Then they had no C or K, and now it seems they all actually have an > emblem that says C/K. > I found out at a young age what the difference is. This after buying parts for > a 70 C/10, or that’s what the emblem on the fender said…. The parts store > deemed it a K model, since it was 4wd. > Now I will bore you all with a quote from my 1977 GM Factory Service Manual. > Page 2D-1 > Section 2d – Body > "On the following pages, service procedures will be given for components on all > 10-20-30 series trucks in C, K and G models. Reference will be made, both in > text and illustrations, to vehicle model lines and to individual model numbers > within these model lines." > I take "these model lines" to mean "C, K and G models", like it says. It > doesn’t say CK models. > More. > "Chassis / Cab > All chassis cabs use "03" as the model identification. See Figure 2D-1. Two > wheel drive units come in C-10, C-20, and C-30 series. Four wheel drive units > may be either K-10 or K-20." > ( K-30’s were not available in 4wd in 1977) > Well there’s my $2 worth! > ~Chuck > www.chuckschevytruckpages.com
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: Nice history. The original poster just purchased a new truck though. Thus : the comparison to a truck from 1977 has no bearing. My responses were : geared toward that vehicle. BTW, I really don’t think I need to go to a : seminar as I’ve not made an inaccurate post. Actually, we’ve discussed a range of vehicles, from the 1960’s until today. Also, to wit: "What does CK stand for? I was just wondering what does C/K stand for? I have a 2500 C/K and I love it but sometimes I just like to know this kind of stuff. Weazel" No where in the original post is the age of the truck discussed. We can assume it isn’t a 60’s or 70’s truck from the "2500" designation, as we’ve previously discussed, but THE ORIGINAL POSTER DID NOT SAY, as you can see above, that he/she bought a new truck. If you can’t get your facts straight, perhaps you should be going to that seminar.
Details are important when selling, particularly when selling large expensive complicated items like trucks. OTOH, this is why I would never buy a new GM. They have’t been great since the mid-70’s, IMHO, and stopped being decent entirely in 1988/1991. C’est la vie. — A : Ken.
:> >A fancy way of saying the same thing I did. Like I said…they are all : C/K :> >trucks..that’s the model name. If you get into the actual model code : then :> >the C’s and K’s are relevant. For example a CC15703 is a 2WD reg cab : short :> >bed, a CK15703 is a 4WD reg cab short bed…however, they are both C/K :> >trucks. Just like the 99’s are Silverado trucks. :> > :> >Ken <~~this really isn’t that confusing, but still nobody’s figured out : what :> >C/K stands for. :> > :> :> Well, years ago, the C models had a C emblem on them, and the K models had : a K :> emblem. Then they had no C or K, and now it seems they all actually have : an :> emblem that says C/K. :> I found out at a young age what the difference is. This after buying parts : for :> a 70 C/10, or that’s what the emblem on the fender said…. The parts : store :> deemed it a K model, since it was 4wd. :> Now I will bore you all with a quote from my 1977 GM Factory Service : Manual. :> Page 2D-1 :> :> Section 2d – Body :> "On the following pages, service procedures will be given for components : on all :> 10-20-30 series trucks in C, K and G models. Reference will be made, both : in :> text and illustrations, to vehicle model lines and to individual model : numbers :> within these model lines." :> :> I take "these model lines" to mean "C, K and G models", like it says. It :> doesn’t say CK models. :> :> More. :> :> "Chassis / Cab :> All chassis cabs use "03" as the model identification. See Figure 2D-1. : Two :> wheel drive units come in C-10, C-20, and C-30 series. Four wheel drive : units :> may be either K-10 or K-20." :> ( K-30’s were not available in 4wd in 1977) :> :> Well there’s my $2 worth! :> :> ~Chuck :> www.chuckschevytruckpages.com :> — his ‘93 300ZX "Ishara" Alpine 1505/1214, JL Audio Evo XR/VR hers ’00 Rodeo (unnamed as yet) and ‘92 Saturn SL2 "Sabrina" truck ’74 K5 Blazer "Tank Grrl" 100% transistor-free and proud projects ‘65 VW Type III Notchback and a ‘77 Chalet sans Blazer
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>Well, as for the 1/2ton-3/4ton-1ton, you’d be surprised at how many people >*don’t* know, even those who sell them. For Chrissake, LOTS of people lurk
::::::::::::::::;snip I resemble that remark, go get ‘em Aaron! By the way, you are right. Sounds like Mr. GM Salesman needs to go to a seminar or something. Let’s not forget the brilliant idea of naming them V and R models for the 1987 production year. ~Chuck www.chuckschevytruckpages.com
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>A fancy way of saying the same thing I did. Like I said…they are all C/K >trucks..that’s the model name. If you get into the actual model code then >the C’s and K’s are relevant. For example a CC15703 is a 2WD reg cab short >bed, a CK15703 is a 4WD reg cab short bed…however, they are both C/K >trucks. Just like the 99’s are Silverado trucks. >Ken <~~this really isn’t that confusing, but still nobody’s figured out what >C/K stands for.
Well, years ago, the C models had a C emblem on them, and the K models had a K emblem. Then they had no C or K, and now it seems they all actually have an emblem that says C/K. I found out at a young age what the difference is. This after buying parts for a 70 C/10, or that’s what the emblem on the fender said…. The parts store deemed it a K model, since it was 4wd. Now I will bore you all with a quote from my 1977 GM Factory Service Manual. Page 2D-1 Section 2d – Body "On the following pages, service procedures will be given for components on all 10-20-30 series trucks in C, K and G models. Reference will be made, both in text and illustrations, to vehicle model lines and to individual model numbers within these model lines." I take "these model lines" to mean "C, K and G models", like it says. It doesn’t say CK models. More. "Chassis / Cab All chassis cabs use "03" as the model identification. See Figure 2D-1. Two wheel drive units come in C-10, C-20, and C-30 series. Four wheel drive units may be either K-10 or K-20." ( K-30’s were not available in 4wd in 1977) Well there’s my $2 worth! ~Chuck www.chuckschevytruckpages.com
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I was just wondering what does C/K stand for? I have a 2500 C/K and I love it but sometimes I just like to know this kind of stuff. Weazel
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: I was just wondering what does C/K stand for? I have a 2500 C/K and I love : it but sometimes I just like to know this kind of stuff. Uh, you have one or the other, but not both. "C" series are 2WD, and "K" series 4WD. -10’s and 1500’s are 1/2 ton -20’s and your 2500 are 3/4 ton -30’s and 3500’s are 1-ton. Ergo the Blazer with the K5 badge was actually called the K10 internally to GM. Also note that many years after my truck was made they started calling 4WD models V, so a V10 Blazer is a 4WD fullsize. — A — his ‘93 300ZX "Ishara" Alpine 1505/1214, JL Audio Evo XR/VR hers ’00 Rodeo (unnamed as yet) and ‘92 Saturn SL2 "Sabrina" truck ’74 K5 Blazer "Tank Grrl" 100% transistor-free and proud projects ‘65 VW Type III Notchback and a ‘77 Chalet sans Blazer
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: Uh..you’re wrong "A". It is a C/K truck. It always has been. CC is 2WD, : CK is 4X4. Also, he didn’t ask what the "2500" stood for, most people know : that if they buy it. Not trying to flame you, but I get very annoyed at : misinformation presented as fact. As to what "C/K" stands for? I don’t : know…<blush, I sell them> but now I’m gonna find out. Well, as for the 1/2ton-3/4ton-1ton, you’d be surprised at how many people *don’t* know, even those who sell them. For Chrissake, LOTS of people lurk here, and it may help some poor soul. At the least that part is 100% accurate and you want me to leave it out because of that? More detail is needed, then, for the C-K thing, since you want to nitpick. The order codes for the vehicles do indeed, for some years, start with CC or CK. However, the "Model" and "Series" are what I was addressing — many websites, for instance, lump the 2WD and 4WD trucks together into a single "C/K-series" section. Look at Cars.com, Classifieds2000.com, et al. The C and K are the letter of the VIN codes which designates the series. Other series include the L (LUV), G and P (vans of various flavours). Lots of good information — even for thsoe who work in the horse’s mouth — can be found in John Gunnell’s "Standard Catalog of Chevrolet Trucks." For instance, in the 67-72 model years, the 4WD trucks were "KS or "KE", among other possibilities, and the 2WD counterparts "CE" and "CS". Again, these are only the internal GM model numbers used to order the things; they are more commnly referred to under the general "K/10", "C/20", etc, as seen on the hood badges and owner’s manuals, among other places. Later on, you’re right, GM switched to "CC" and "KC". Since the original poster mentioned his as a "2500", and not a "20", we can presume it’s later than the 70’s; as a matetr of fact, we pinpoint it to ‘88 or later, when the body style changed. In ‘88 the model designation was "R" for almost all types, not "CC" or "CK"; in ‘89, the 4WD models were lumped together by GM even, so yup, there is a single "C/K2500" model listed, which comprises both 2WD and 4WD trucks. There are no "CK" order numbers. Anyway, I can quote the whole book to you or you can go get one for your own edification. I believe my original answer stands and if you did not personally find it helpful, someone else may. I slightly oversimplified so that the original poster could get the information he actually needed, without worrying about how GM salesdriods order the vehicles from the factory. If you want to complain about my posts, at least put more information in yours
— A — his ‘93 300ZX "Ishara" Alpine 1505/1214, JL Audio Evo XR/VR hers ’00 Rodeo (unnamed as yet) and ‘92 Saturn SL2 "Sabrina" truck ’74 K5 Blazer "Tank Grrl" 100% transistor-free and proud projects ‘65 VW Type III Notchback and a ‘77 Chalet sans Blazer
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