CRAP CV axle outta place.
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> So why the trollbait, then?
Old habits die hard – I was just trying to be funny. Although I really like my 94 Chev, it is really just a highway truck. I hope to build and lift an old ford for the rough stuff. I’m sure an old chevy would do just as well off-road but I have a shed full of 73-79 ford truck parts. Merc – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Sam > Actually, I used to be a hard-core Ford truck guy but I bought a 94 Chevy > Crewcab 1 ton 4×4 this past spring and to be quite honest, I really like > it. > Merc > 94 Chev Cheyenne 3500 4×4 crewcab
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Bravo. He’s just another shit disturber. > > > No… Ever wish you had a life other than perusing newsgroups that > are > of > > > no real interest to you? > > > > Do you ever wish that you would of bought a Ford? > > > > > OK, after giving up on my stumble problem (not really that bad and > > > > probably > > > > > in the gearing somewhat too, lifted and all) I was trying to chase > down > > > a > > > > > decent radiator leak and installed a new steering dampener. So > I’m > > > under > > > > > there and my CV axle is about a 1/4" away from the axle housing > (still > > > > > attached to the axle extender.) Hmmmm…. so like any brave soul > I > > > start > > > > > to mess with it. I pull out on it a little and it moves VERY > freely > > > > farther > > > > > out and now it won’t go back in! CRAP! > > > > > OK, so my question is, How the hell do I get this thing back in > there > > > and > > > > > why did it come out? C-lock? That’s my guess. It’s probably > gone, > > > > broke, > > > > > etc. How hard a job is it to get in there to put the axle > extender > back > > > > in > > > > > the proper place (right side here) and replace the C-lock? I am > fairly > > > > > mechanically inclined and want an honest opinion if I should have > this > > > > done > > > > > or do it myself. Secondly, it I drive this thing will everything > reseat > > > > > itself (seems to have been like this for a while) or turn into a > mess of > > > > > sheared teeth and metal filings?
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"Thomas Moyer" wrote > When you say washer, are you referring to the
c-clip-snapring-jimmyjamthing? > And will the sleeve(gear shown in second pic, then washer, then sleeve) > remain or be easily replaced back into the diff? Also, anything I need to > watch out for while in there?
No, in the picture you see the small gear that the axle shaft goes thru. The retaining ring sits inside a groove that is in both the gear and the axle shaft. If you have never worked on these front diffs, you might want to either leave it someone who knows what they are doing, or remove the entire diff and then remove the extension housing. So much easier to re-install things correctly. The extension housing can come out with the diff in place, but it’s fiddly…..c/v shaft is in the way and the diff needs to be moved around as you remove the extension housing in order to get the proper clearances. If you want to pull it out, I can give you instructions on how I remove them…. Ian – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> And is $100 worth the headache to have it done local independent shop > quote)? > Thanks, > Thom > "Thomas Moyer" wrote > > OK, so, can anyone help me with this problem? > > BTW , I did get the thing to slide back into the housing, but is this a > hard > > project to fix myself? > I guess my first answer hasn’t shown up on the net yet. > Is this the side that came out? > http://www3.telus.net/public/ianrmac/Images/DSC00722-1.JPG > If so….it’s likely that a washer that sits on the end of the > shaft has come loose. Does the front axle shift into > engagement? If so, you are lucky and the washer is in > place. If not, you aren’t lucky and the washer is dislodged > and will block the shift fork in the front diff. > You can see the end of the shaft and the gear that it > goes thru here. > http://www3.telus.net/public/ianrmac/Images/DSC00720-1.JPG > The washer isn’t in place at the time of the picture, but it slides > over that small extension on the end of the shaft. > Either way, whether you want to repair the retaining ring that > holds the shaft in place, or if the washer has dropped out of > place….you need to remove that extension housing section, > and repair/re-assemble it properly. It can be done in the > vehicle. Just have to do a little monkeying around with the > front diff and axle shaft. > Ian
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shiden_kai, Thanks for the extra info. As I cannot afford to be without my currently only vehicle for very long, I will let the local shop do it. I could probably do it myself if I had enough time (couldn’t we all?), but time and an upcoming 2000 mile round trip doesn’t leave room for error. Thanks for your time, Thom
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Thomas Moyer" wrote > When you say washer, are you referring to the > c-clip-snapring-jimmyjamthing? > And will the sleeve(gear shown in second pic, then washer, then sleeve) > remain or be easily replaced back into the diff? Also, anything I need to > watch out for while in there? > No, in the picture you see the small gear that the axle > shaft goes thru. The retaining ring sits inside a groove that > is in both the gear and the axle shaft. > If you have never worked on these front diffs, you might want to > either leave it someone who knows what they are doing, or remove > the entire diff and then remove the extension housing. So much easier > to re-install things correctly. The extension housing can come out with > the diff in place, but it’s fiddly…..c/v shaft is in the way and the diff > needs > to be moved around as you remove the extension housing in order to > get the proper clearances. > If you want to pull it out, I can give you instructions on how I remove > them…. > Ian > And is $100 worth the headache to have it done local independent shop > quote)? > Thanks, > Thom > > "Thomas Moyer" wrote > > > OK, so, can anyone help me with this problem? > > > BTW , I did get the thing to slide back into the housing, but is this > a > > hard > > > project to fix myself? > > I guess my first answer hasn’t shown up on the net yet. > > Is this the side that came out? > > http://www3.telus.net/public/ianrmac/Images/DSC00722-1.JPG > > If so….it’s likely that a washer that sits on the end of the > > shaft has come loose. Does the front axle shift into > > engagement? If so, you are lucky and the washer is in > > place. If not, you aren’t lucky and the washer is dislodged > > and will block the shift fork in the front diff. > > You can see the end of the shaft and the gear that it > > goes thru here. > > http://www3.telus.net/public/ianrmac/Images/DSC00720-1.JPG > > The washer isn’t in place at the time of the picture, but it slides > > over that small extension on the end of the shaft. > > Either way, whether you want to repair the retaining ring that > > holds the shaft in place, or if the washer has dropped out of > > place….you need to remove that extension housing section, > > and repair/re-assemble it properly. It can be done in the > > vehicle. Just have to do a little monkeying around with the > > front diff and axle shaft. > > Ian
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So why the trollbait, then? Sam
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Actually, I used to be a hard-core Ford truck guy but I bought a 94 Chevy > Crewcab 1 ton 4×4 this past spring and to be quite honest, I really like it. > Merc > 94 Chev Cheyenne 3500 4×4 crewcab > Bravo. He’s just another shit disturber. > > No… Ever wish you had a life other than perusing newsgroups that are > of > > no real interest to you? > > > Do you ever wish that you would of bought a Ford? > > > > OK, after giving up on my stumble problem (not really that bad and > > > probably > > > > in the gearing somewhat too, lifted and all) I was trying to chase > down > > a > > > > decent radiator leak and installed a new steering dampener. So I’m > > under > > > > there and my CV axle is about a 1/4" away from the axle housing > (still > > > > attached to the axle extender.) Hmmmm…. so like any brave soul I > > start > > > > to mess with it. I pull out on it a little and it moves VERY freely > > > farther > > > > out and now it won’t go back in! CRAP! > > > > OK, so my question is, How the hell do I get this thing back in > there > > and > > > > why did it come out? C-lock? That’s my guess. It’s probably gone, > > > broke, > > > > etc. How hard a job is it to get in there to put the axle extender > back > > > in > > > > the proper place (right side here) and replace the C-lock? I am > fairly > > > > mechanically inclined and want an honest opinion if I should have > this > > > done > > > > or do it myself. Secondly, it I drive this thing will everything > reseat > > > > itself (seems to have been like this for a while) or turn into a > mess of > > > > sheared teeth and metal filings?
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OK, so, can anyone help me with this problem? BTW , I did get the thing to slide back into the housing, but is this a hard project to fix myself? Thom
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> OK, after giving up on my stumble problem (not really that bad and probably > in the gearing somewhat too, lifted and all) I was trying to chase down a > decent radiator leak and installed a new steering dampener. So I’m under > there and my CV axle is about a 1/4" away from the axle housing (still > attached to the axle extender.) Hmmmm…. so like any brave soul I start > to mess with it. I pull out on it a little and it moves VERY freely farther > out and now it won’t go back in! CRAP! > OK, so my question is, How the hell do I get this thing back in there and > why did it come out? C-lock? That’s my guess. It’s probably gone, broke, > etc. How hard a job is it to get in there to put the axle extender back in > the proper place (right side here) and replace the C-lock? I am fairly > mechanically inclined and want an honest opinion if I should have this done > or do it myself. Secondly, it I drive this thing will everything reseat > itself (seems to have been like this for a while) or turn into a mess of > sheared teeth and metal filings?
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"Thomas Moyer" wrote > OK, so, can anyone help me with this problem? > BTW , I did get the thing to slide back into the housing, but is this a hard > project to fix myself?
I guess my first answer hasn’t shown up on the net yet. Is this the side that came out? http://www3.telus.net/public/ianrmac/Images/DSC00722-1.JPG If so….it’s likely that a washer that sits on the end of the shaft has come loose. Does the front axle shift into engagement? If so, you are lucky and the washer is in place. If not, you aren’t lucky and the washer is dislodged and will block the shift fork in the front diff. You can see the end of the shaft and the gear that it goes thru here. http://www3.telus.net/public/ianrmac/Images/DSC00720-1.JPG The washer isn’t in place at the time of the picture, but it slides over that small extension on the end of the shaft. Either way, whether you want to repair the retaining ring that holds the shaft in place, or if the washer has dropped out of place….you need to remove that extension housing section, and repair/re-assemble it properly. It can be done in the vehicle. Just have to do a little monkeying around with the front diff and axle shaft. Ian
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shiden_kai, No, your first response hasn’t shown up yet… weird. It actually took a couple of hours for the post to actually show the day I did it. Thank you sooo much for the photo links, they help a lot. Yep, that’s the side that came out. And yes, it will engage the front axle. When you say washer, are you referring to the c-clip-snapring-jimmyjamthing? And will the sleeve(gear shown in second pic, then washer, then sleeve) remain or be easily replaced back into the diff? Also, anything I need to watch out for while in there? And is $100 worth the headache to have it done local independent shop quote)? Thanks, Thom
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Thomas Moyer" wrote > OK, so, can anyone help me with this problem? > BTW , I did get the thing to slide back into the housing, but is this a > hard > project to fix myself? > I guess my first answer hasn’t shown up on the net yet. > Is this the side that came out? > http://www3.telus.net/public/ianrmac/Images/DSC00722-1.JPG > If so….it’s likely that a washer that sits on the end of the > shaft has come loose. Does the front axle shift into > engagement? If so, you are lucky and the washer is in > place. If not, you aren’t lucky and the washer is dislodged > and will block the shift fork in the front diff. > You can see the end of the shaft and the gear that it > goes thru here. > http://www3.telus.net/public/ianrmac/Images/DSC00720-1.JPG > The washer isn’t in place at the time of the picture, but it slides > over that small extension on the end of the shaft. > Either way, whether you want to repair the retaining ring that > holds the shaft in place, or if the washer has dropped out of > place….you need to remove that extension housing section, > and repair/re-assemble it properly. It can be done in the > vehicle. Just have to do a little monkeying around with the > front diff and axle shaft. > Ian
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So why the Ford question? lol Thom
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Actually, I used to be a hard-core Ford truck guy but I bought a 94 Chevy > Crewcab 1 ton 4×4 this past spring and to be quite honest, I really like it. > Merc > 94 Chev Cheyenne 3500 4×4 crewcab > Bravo. He’s just another shit disturber. > > No… Ever wish you had a life other than perusing newsgroups that are > of > > no real interest to you? > > > Do you ever wish that you would of bought a Ford? > > > > OK, after giving up on my stumble problem (not really that bad and > > > probably > > > > in the gearing somewhat too, lifted and all) I was trying to chase > down > > a > > > > decent radiator leak and installed a new steering dampener. So I’m > > under > > > > there and my CV axle is about a 1/4" away from the axle housing > (still > > > > attached to the axle extender.) Hmmmm…. so like any brave soul I > > start > > > > to mess with it. I pull out on it a little and it moves VERY freely > > > farther > > > > out and now it won’t go back in! CRAP! > > > > OK, so my question is, How the hell do I get this thing back in > there > > and > > > > why did it come out? C-lock? That’s my guess. It’s probably gone, > > > broke, > > > > etc. How hard a job is it to get in there to put the axle extender > back > > > in > > > > the proper place (right side here) and replace the C-lock? I am > fairly > > > > mechanically inclined and want an honest opinion if I should have > this > > > done > > > > or do it myself. Secondly, it I drive this thing will everything > reseat > > > > itself (seems to have been like this for a while) or turn into a > mess of > > > > sheared teeth and metal filings?
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Actually, I used to be a hard-core Ford truck guy but I bought a 94 Chevy Crewcab 1 ton 4×4 this past spring and to be quite honest, I really like it. Merc 94 Chev Cheyenne 3500 4×4 crewcab – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Bravo. He’s just another shit disturber. > No… Ever wish you had a life other than perusing newsgroups that are of > no real interest to you? > > Do you ever wish that you would of bought a Ford? > > > OK, after giving up on my stumble problem (not really that bad and > > probably > > > in the gearing somewhat too, lifted and all) I was trying to chase down > a > > > decent radiator leak and installed a new steering dampener. So I’m > under > > > there and my CV axle is about a 1/4" away from the axle housing (still > > > attached to the axle extender.) Hmmmm…. so like any brave soul I > start > > > to mess with it. I pull out on it a little and it moves VERY freely > > farther > > > out and now it won’t go back in! CRAP! > > > OK, so my question is, How the hell do I get this thing back in there > and > > > why did it come out? C-lock? That’s my guess. It’s probably gone, > > broke, > > > etc. How hard a job is it to get in there to put the axle extender back > > in > > > the proper place (right side here) and replace the C-lock? I am fairly > > > mechanically inclined and want an honest opinion if I should have this > > done > > > or do it myself. Secondly, it I drive this thing will everything reseat > > > itself (seems to have been like this for a while) or turn into a mess of > > > sheared teeth and metal filings?
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No… Ever wish you had a life other than perusing newsgroups that are of no real interest to you?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Do you ever wish that you would of bought a Ford? > OK, after giving up on my stumble problem (not really that bad and > probably > in the gearing somewhat too, lifted and all) I was trying to chase down a > decent radiator leak and installed a new steering dampener. So I’m under > there and my CV axle is about a 1/4" away from the axle housing (still > attached to the axle extender.) Hmmmm…. so like any brave soul I start > to mess with it. I pull out on it a little and it moves VERY freely > farther > out and now it won’t go back in! CRAP! > OK, so my question is, How the hell do I get this thing back in there and > why did it come out? C-lock? That’s my guess. It’s probably gone, > broke, > etc. How hard a job is it to get in there to put the axle extender back > in > the proper place (right side here) and replace the C-lock? I am fairly > mechanically inclined and want an honest opinion if I should have this > done > or do it myself. Secondly, it I drive this thing will everything reseat > itself (seems to have been like this for a while) or turn into a mess of > sheared teeth and metal filings?
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Make, model, year? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> OK, after giving up on my stumble problem (not really that bad and probably > in the gearing somewhat too, lifted and all) I was trying to chase down a > decent radiator leak and installed a new steering dampener. So I’m under > there and my CV axle is about a 1/4" away from the axle housing (still > attached to the axle extender.) Hmmmm…. so like any brave soul I start > to mess with it. I pull out on it a little and it moves VERY freely farther > out and now it won’t go back in! CRAP! > OK, so my question is, How the hell do I get this thing back in there and > why did it come out? C-lock? That’s my guess. It’s probably gone, broke, > etc. How hard a job is it to get in there to put the axle extender back in > the proper place (right side here) and replace the C-lock? I am fairly > mechanically inclined and want an honest opinion if I should have this done > or do it myself. Secondly, it I drive this thing will everything reseat > itself (seems to have been like this for a while) or turn into a mess of > sheared teeth and metal filings?
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Bilko, Can’t believe I forgot that info… Sorry. 91 Chevy Silverado, 4×4 (obviously), 350, 700R4, 146K miles. Anyways, the local independent shop quoted me $100 to do it. Fair price or not? Thom
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Make, model, year? > OK, after giving up on my stumble problem (not really that bad and > probably > in the gearing somewhat too, lifted and all) I was trying to chase down a > decent radiator leak and installed a new steering dampener. So I’m under > there and my CV axle is about a 1/4" away from the axle housing (still > attached to the axle extender.) Hmmmm…. so like any brave soul I start > to mess with it. I pull out on it a little and it moves VERY freely > farther > out and now it won’t go back in! CRAP! > OK, so my question is, How the hell do I get this thing back in there and > why did it come out? C-lock? That’s my guess. It’s probably gone, > broke, > etc. How hard a job is it to get in there to put the axle extender back > in > the proper place (right side here) and replace the C-lock? I am fairly > mechanically inclined and want an honest opinion if I should have this > done > or do it myself. Secondly, it I drive this thing will everything reseat > itself (seems to have been like this for a while) or turn into a mess of > sheared teeth and metal filings?
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Bravo. He’s just another shit disturber. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > No… Ever wish you had a life other than perusing newsgroups that are of > no real interest to you? > Do you ever wish that you would of bought a Ford? > > OK, after giving up on my stumble problem (not really that bad and > probably > > in the gearing somewhat too, lifted and all) I was trying to chase down > a > > decent radiator leak and installed a new steering dampener. So I’m > under > > there and my CV axle is about a 1/4" away from the axle housing (still > > attached to the axle extender.) Hmmmm…. so like any brave soul I > start > > to mess with it. I pull out on it a little and it moves VERY freely > farther > > out and now it won’t go back in! CRAP! > > OK, so my question is, How the hell do I get this thing back in there > and > > why did it come out? C-lock? That’s my guess. It’s probably gone, > broke, > > etc. How hard a job is it to get in there to put the axle extender back > in > > the proper place (right side here) and replace the C-lock? I am fairly > > mechanically inclined and want an honest opinion if I should have this > done > > or do it myself. Secondly, it I drive this thing will everything reseat > > itself (seems to have been like this for a while) or turn into a mess of > > sheared teeth and metal filings?
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OK, after giving up on my stumble problem (not really that bad and probably in the gearing somewhat too, lifted and all) I was trying to chase down a decent radiator leak and installed a new steering dampener. So I’m under there and my CV axle is about a 1/4" away from the axle housing (still attached to the axle extender.) Hmmmm…. so like any brave soul I start to mess with it. I pull out on it a little and it moves VERY freely farther out and now it won’t go back in! CRAP! OK, so my question is, How the hell do I get this thing back in there and why did it come out? C-lock? That’s my guess. It’s probably gone, broke, etc. How hard a job is it to get in there to put the axle extender back in the proper place (right side here) and replace the C-lock? I am fairly mechanically inclined and want an honest opinion if I should have this done or do it myself. Secondly, it I drive this thing will everything reseat itself (seems to have been like this for a while) or turn into a mess of sheared teeth and metal filings?
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Do you ever wish that you would of bought a Ford?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> OK, after giving up on my stumble problem (not really that bad and probably > in the gearing somewhat too, lifted and all) I was trying to chase down a > decent radiator leak and installed a new steering dampener. So I’m under > there and my CV axle is about a 1/4" away from the axle housing (still > attached to the axle extender.) Hmmmm…. so like any brave soul I start > to mess with it. I pull out on it a little and it moves VERY freely farther > out and now it won’t go back in! CRAP! > OK, so my question is, How the hell do I get this thing back in there and > why did it come out? C-lock? That’s my guess. It’s probably gone, broke, > etc. How hard a job is it to get in there to put the axle extender back in > the proper place (right side here) and replace the C-lock? I am fairly > mechanically inclined and want an honest opinion if I should have this done > or do it myself. Secondly, it I drive this thing will everything reseat > itself (seems to have been like this for a while) or turn into a mess of > sheared teeth and metal filings?
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