SUV/Pick-up bumper height
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> 90 MPH or faster, they weave in and out of traffic, and they bully > their way into your lane during traffic. ugh. it makes me sad.
Around here, they just cut you off or pull out in traffic right in front of you (how’s a 3klb Accord argue with a 5-6klb SUV?), then slow to 5mph to go around a curve… — —
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They don’t know they are doing 90 MPH. Their speedometer says they are only doing 60 ! Dave
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> 90 MPH or faster, they weave in and out of traffic, and they bully > their way into your lane during traffic. ugh. it makes me sad. > they can DO 90? with those big ass tires? also makes em more vulnerable to > flipping.
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damn you! i must get a motorcycle now! 
— rich – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > well, apparently they have the money to take that $271 gamble. > meanwhile, i commute to work on my motorcycle, and chuckle at the creeping > traffic. kinda sucks when its 40 degrees out, but its worth it.
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> damn you! i must get a motorcycle now!
For less than $6k (USD), you can get a new motorcycle that will do 0-60mph in 3.7 seconds straight off the dealer’s floor. My Accord is kinda wimpy, so I get my speed thrills from the bike. 
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90 MPH or faster, they weave in and out of traffic, and they bully their way into your lane during traffic. ugh. it makes me sad. — rich – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > A friend of mine did that in his Eclipse, flipped over a mid-80s K-Blazer. > She tried to cross traffic, and he was speeding, probably about 45mph. > Totaled both vehicles. > But I always fear big trucks in my del Sol, tailgating, running red lights. > — > Hornimon, the Tentacle Beast of Perversion > I mean you can take a hammer and when frustrated beat on a truck, but they > frown on you doing that to a person for some reason… > Amethyst AFD
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> i’m sure those are illegal too. but like i said, most cops don’t > enforce it. especially if the truck is lifted that high up. it’s a real > scary situation for the cop if he can’t see in the vehicle as he > approaches it. who knows if the driver is getting ready to point a gun > down on the cop or not? so in reality, i think cops are afraid to pull > these guys over. > i also see these monster trucks take advantage of their height by > riding in the HOV lane. typical scenario… SUV or full size truck with > a 3 foot lift, tinted windows, cruising the HOV lane. it’s hard to tell > if the driver is riding solo or not. i can usually make out the shadows > and shapes of heads if it’s a bright day.
well, apparently they have the money to take that $271 gamble. meanwhile, i commute to work on my motorcycle, and chuckle at the creeping traffic. kinda sucks when its 40 degrees out, but its worth it.
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> 90 MPH or faster, they weave in and out of traffic, and they bully > their way into your lane during traffic. ugh. it makes me sad.
they can DO 90? with those big ass tires? also makes em more vulnerable to flipping.
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i’m sure those are illegal too. but like i said, most cops don’t enforce it. especially if the truck is lifted that high up. it’s a real scary situation for the cop if he can’t see in the vehicle as he approaches it. who knows if the driver is getting ready to point a gun down on the cop or not? so in reality, i think cops are afraid to pull these guys over. i also see these monster trucks take advantage of their height by riding in the HOV lane. typical scenario… SUV or full size truck with a 3 foot lift, tinted windows, cruising the HOV lane. it’s hard to tell if the driver is riding solo or not. i can usually make out the shadows and shapes of heads if it’s a bright day. — rich – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > How about the monster trucks that have headlights about 7 feet off the > ground? > Dave
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oh yeah, that reminds me. a friend of mine was telling a similar story. he was out in the desert and he saw an Expedition with a major lift kit and huge ass wheels. but the funny thing is that the Expedition got stuck in a dune or a ditch. those huge ass wheels really kill the low end torque and horsepower, so the guy couldn’t get out. but the funniest part is that this Expedition had to be towed/pulled out of ditch by a stock Chevy Silverado 4×4. i bet all the Chevy guys out there were laughing. — rich – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > hehe… my friend had a lift kit, new wheels, and tires put on his Ram… > it wont fit under his assigned apartment carport > harder to steer > harder to park > worse mileage > more wear on drivetrain > harder to judge distances > slower acceleration > more tire noise > harder to climb in to > harder to load his dirt bike into > has to pay more to wash (wont fit in automated washes… hand wash, or DIY > spray wash only) > needs to wash more often, since it wont fit in carport and has to be parked > "outside" > but hey… it looks "bitchen" > i really cant think of any plusses to the situation, cept if he got pissed > at me he could probably drive over my civic.
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> bumper height is kinda/sorta standardized, at least here in california. > well, it’s not really the bumper… it’s the headlight. when i went to > traffic school, the instructor (a cop) said that the headlight must be > be between "X" and "Y" inches from the ground. this may apply to > passenger cars only… i think. but most cops don’t enforce this unless > they’re really bored.
hehe… my friend had a lift kit, new wheels, and tires put on his Ram… it wont fit under his assigned apartment carport harder to steer harder to park worse mileage more wear on drivetrain harder to judge distances slower acceleration more tire noise harder to climb in to harder to load his dirt bike into has to pay more to wash (wont fit in automated washes… hand wash, or DIY spray wash only) needs to wash more often, since it wont fit in carport and has to be parked "outside" but hey… it looks "bitchen" i really cant think of any plusses to the situation, cept if he got pissed at me he could probably drive over my civic.
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How about the monster trucks that have headlights about 7 feet off the ground? Dave
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> bumper height is kinda/sorta standardized, at least here in california. > well, it’s not really the bumper… it’s the headlight. when i went to > traffic school, the instructor (a cop) said that the headlight must be > be between "X" and "Y" inches from the ground. this may apply to > passenger cars only… i think. but most cops don’t enforce this unless > they’re really bored. > — > rich > I have always thought there should be laws regarding this kind of stuff. > Bumper height should be standardized. It is for semi-trucks. Those highly > modified monster trucks should not even be street legal. They have the > front differential at head height! > Dave
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slackerbot rec.autos.makers.honda % Food > your post is such a strange coincidence. a few weeks ago when i was > driving home from work, i saw an accident on the freeway. it was a 3 > car mini pile-up. a Camry was up front, an older model Explorer was in > the middle, and an 80-something Prelude was at the end. the Prelude > acted as a wedge and slid under the Explorer’s bumper and tires. it > totally propped the Explorer’s tail end up in the air. the tires of the > Explorer rested on hood of the Prelude. my guess is that if the Prelude > was going any faster, it would’ve totally flipped the Explorer over the > Camry. wow!
A friend of mine did that in his Eclipse, flipped over a mid-80s K-Blazer. She tried to cross traffic, and he was speeding, probably about 45mph. Totaled both vehicles. But I always fear big trucks in my del Sol, tailgating, running red lights. — Hornimon, the Tentacle Beast of Perversion I mean you can take a hammer and when frustrated beat on a truck, but they frown on you doing that to a person for some reason… Amethyst AFD
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> A comment — with a fair degree of anger. A couple of days ago, Ford pickup > backed into my daughter’s 02 Civic Ex coupe — a hit and run seen by a > bystander. The truck rode over the bumper on the driver’s side bending the > hood and breaking the headlight assembly. All said and done — $1,900 worth > of damage.
This is part of the reason my parents sold their Mustang and bought an SUV. The Mustang kept getting backed into by trucks, it was so low they couldn’t see it. Happened twice in less than a year.
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your post is such a strange coincidence. a few weeks ago when i was driving home from work, i saw an accident on the freeway. it was a 3 car mini pile-up. a Camry was up front, an older model Explorer was in the middle, and an 80-something Prelude was at the end. the Prelude acted as a wedge and slid under the Explorer’s bumper and tires. it totally propped the Explorer’s tail end up in the air. the tires of the Explorer rested on hood of the Prelude. my guess is that if the Prelude was going any faster, it would’ve totally flipped the Explorer over the Camry. wow! but in a direct broad side collision, i’m sorry to say that you will most likely be in the hospital for head trauma. depending on the speed and impact, that is. it also depends on the height of the SUV. if the bumper of the SUV clears your roofline at impact, then most likely the blunt of the collision will be with the SUV’s tires. and the most likely end result is the SUV flying over your car and flipping over. — rich – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > A comment — with a fair degree of anger. A couple of days ago, Ford pickup > backed into my daughter’s 02 Civic Ex coupe — a hit and run seen by a > bystander. The truck rode over the bumper on the driver’s side bending the > hood and breaking the headlight assembly. All said and done — $1,900 worth > of damage. Probably did not register on the idiot. As a Prelude driver the > wheels on some of these vehicles are at the same height as my shoulders when > I pull up beside them, which makes you wonder if you would survive a > broadside hit.
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>but in a direct broad side collision, i’m sorry to say that you will >most likely be in the hospital for head trauma. depending on the speed >and impact, that is. it also depends on the height of the SUV. if the >bumper of the SUV clears your roofline at impact, then most likely the >blunt of the collision will be with the SUV’s tires. and the most >likely end result is the SUV flying over your car and flipping over.
A side crash between a car and an SUV seems particularly bad for whoever the "target" is. If the SUV hits the car, its bumper is likely to hit above the strong beams in the car’s door, perhaps heading through the window into the driver’s head. If the car hits the SUV, it may go under the SUV and cause it to roll over. — Timothy J. Lee Unsolicited bulk or commercial email is not welcome. No warranty of any kind is provided with this message.
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I have always thought there should be laws regarding this kind of stuff. Bumper height should be standardized. It is for semi-trucks. Those highly modified monster trucks should not even be street legal. They have the front differential at head height! Dave
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> A comment — with a fair degree of anger. A couple of days ago, Ford pickup > backed into my daughter’s 02 Civic Ex coupe — a hit and run seen by a > bystander. The truck rode over the bumper on the driver’s side bending the > hood and breaking the headlight assembly. All said and done — $1,900 worth > of damage. Probably did not register on the idiot. As a Prelude driver the > wheels on some of these vehicles are at the same height as my shoulders when > I pull up beside them, which makes you wonder if you would survive a > broadside hit.
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> I have always thought there should be laws regarding this kind of stuff. > Bumper height should be standardized. It is for semi-trucks. Those highly > modified monster trucks should not even be street legal. They have the > front differential at head height! > Dave
At one time I thought there was supposed to be a federal requirement that manufacturers install bumpers that would be a a standardize car height. I imagine, though, that this would be an engineering nightmare. For now — I suppose the best thing to do is keep dodging them. At age 61, I like my manual Prelude and am not about to give in. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> A comment — with a fair degree of anger. A couple of days ago, Ford > pickup > backed into my daughter’s 02 Civic Ex coupe — a hit and run seen by a > bystander. The truck rode over the bumper on the driver’s side bending > the > hood and breaking the headlight assembly. All said and done — $1,900 > worth > of damage. Probably did not register on the idiot. As a Prelude driver > the > wheels on some of these vehicles are at the same height as my shoulders > when > I pull up beside them, which makes you wonder if you would survive a > broadside hit.
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bumper height is kinda/sorta standardized, at least here in california. well, it’s not really the bumper… it’s the headlight. when i went to traffic school, the instructor (a cop) said that the headlight must be be between "X" and "Y" inches from the ground. this may apply to passenger cars only… i think. but most cops don’t enforce this unless they’re really bored. — rich – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I have always thought there should be laws regarding this kind of stuff. > Bumper height should be standardized. It is for semi-trucks. Those highly > modified monster trucks should not even be street legal. They have the > front differential at head height! > Dave
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A comment — with a fair degree of anger. A couple of days ago, Ford pickup backed into my daughter’s 02 Civic Ex coupe — a hit and run seen by a bystander. The truck rode over the bumper on the driver’s side bending the hood and breaking the headlight assembly. All said and done — $1,900 worth of damage. Probably did not register on the idiot. As a Prelude driver the wheels on some of these vehicles are at the same height as my shoulders when I pull up beside them, which makes you wonder if you would survive a broadside hit.
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> A comment — with a fair degree of anger. A couple of days ago, Ford pickup > backed into my daughter’s 02 Civic Ex coupe — a hit and run seen by a > bystander. The truck rode over the bumper on the driver’s side bending the > hood and breaking the headlight assembly. All said and done — $1,900 worth > of damage. Probably did not register on the idiot. As a Prelude driver the > wheels on some of these vehicles are at the same height as my shoulders when > I pull up beside them, which makes you wonder if you would survive a > broadside hit.
The only hope is for MUCH higher gas prices coupled with insurance rates that accurately reflect the risk these and SUVs present. You’re probably right though. The idiot probably thought he/she was just hearing yet another mechanical "feature" the dealer forget to tell her/him about. Of course Honda’s no better in the tonnage/size race than Ford. http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–= Over 100,000 Newsgroups – Unlimited Fast Downloads – 19 Servers =—–
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